Nice argument sir, but I have studied the subject too. Software maintenance has three parts Corrective, adaptive and perfective. Adaptive maintence take about 80% of all the maintanace cost and efforts, because the underlying platform on which the system runs keeps changing which is not quite the case of classical engineering deciplines.
Corrective maintenance is plain removal of bugs while perfective maintenance is the REAL IMPROVIZATION which is done by those who builds the software. Right? In this regard Brhma and Vishnu are the same.
Thursday, July 26, 2007
Much ado about engineers
Well, already a dual attack on the poor third person singular number I see.
I think you are missing a point by trying to establish another.
If research and development were the last word, then there would be a chaos once a new product was brought to market. Let me use a bit of Hinduism in this - Shrishti (Creation), Sthiti (preservation) and Lay (destruction).....makes sense?
RnD is the Srishti bit, and I do understand your concerns that US are doing more of it with the help of Indian and other engineers who are not really contributing directly to their motherland.
But going by the SDLC (software development lifecycle), and the concept of Sthiti, Preservation (or maintenance) of what is created takes up 70% of the lifespan of any product. So if US be Bramha, Indians can always proudly say we are Vishnu. For it is this maintenance industry, run by Indians, from or away from India, that is driving a bulk of our economy. We may not be making the Ferrarri, but we have a major part to play to make sure it keeps running. And in doing that, we are directly adding value to our economy, as we are an Indian company, based in Mumbai and working all over the world!
Some people are techno-thrilled, so as to say, they like making things. And they dont and wont get satisfaction in making real time technology in India, for India. But then there are others who like keeping things the way they were made, and may be innovating a bit more to increase its life expectancy.
So when the wheel was created, nobody though much about its wear and tear until a certain Mr. John Dunlop thought of the improvisation. And then some others who made the Tyres more durable and strong. And then some who made better road design to suit the tyres. And some who kept the road surfaces smooth, to justify the value of the wheel in the end.
Complicated? Just food for thought.
I think you are missing a point by trying to establish another.
If research and development were the last word, then there would be a chaos once a new product was brought to market. Let me use a bit of Hinduism in this - Shrishti (Creation), Sthiti (preservation) and Lay (destruction).....makes sense?
RnD is the Srishti bit, and I do understand your concerns that US are doing more of it with the help of Indian and other engineers who are not really contributing directly to their motherland.
But going by the SDLC (software development lifecycle), and the concept of Sthiti, Preservation (or maintenance) of what is created takes up 70% of the lifespan of any product. So if US be Bramha, Indians can always proudly say we are Vishnu. For it is this maintenance industry, run by Indians, from or away from India, that is driving a bulk of our economy. We may not be making the Ferrarri, but we have a major part to play to make sure it keeps running. And in doing that, we are directly adding value to our economy, as we are an Indian company, based in Mumbai and working all over the world!
Some people are techno-thrilled, so as to say, they like making things. And they dont and wont get satisfaction in making real time technology in India, for India. But then there are others who like keeping things the way they were made, and may be innovating a bit more to increase its life expectancy.
So when the wheel was created, nobody though much about its wear and tear until a certain Mr. John Dunlop thought of the improvisation. And then some others who made the Tyres more durable and strong. And then some who made better road design to suit the tyres. And some who kept the road surfaces smooth, to justify the value of the wheel in the end.
Complicated? Just food for thought.
Engineers: Are they the real......? Part II
Considering the wealth spend by the country in creating an engineer and also the number of engineers created in comparison to the benefit realized in terms of technological innovations which results in receipts to the government I have no option but to agree with your postulate.
Yes traitors indeed. Sixty years to the independence, we still buy even the smallest of weapons. Sixty years to the independence and we could not even come up with a “Tommy gun”. Seventy percent of the defense budget here is still on procurement while in the US its on research and development.Be it the M-16, the antidandruff shampoo, or the RAY ban sunglasses all came from the DoD Labs.
Actually the problem is with the passion. Education is considered here as an avenue to make money rather than attainment of enlightenment. From Standard IX my class mates were hooked to Brilliant Tutorials. The paths were well laid out. IIT or REC à MS / MBA from USà Job in USA with HI/B à Green Card. The entire value system is wrong my friend. They become engineers as its often the easiest way to get through an MS or MBA and then a green card. Engineering is never a passion for most engineers save patriotism.
We cant even expect that they are salesmen to products that eats their nation’s wealth.
There is also a flip side. I know of some engineers from Caltech who came down to Indian defense research only to be frustrated by bureaucracy and corruption in the ministry level and went back.
So I agree that they are traitors, but our systems breeds such traitors.
Its a recursive relation, my friend.
Yes traitors indeed. Sixty years to the independence, we still buy even the smallest of weapons. Sixty years to the independence and we could not even come up with a “Tommy gun”. Seventy percent of the defense budget here is still on procurement while in the US its on research and development.Be it the M-16, the antidandruff shampoo, or the RAY ban sunglasses all came from the DoD Labs.
Actually the problem is with the passion. Education is considered here as an avenue to make money rather than attainment of enlightenment. From Standard IX my class mates were hooked to Brilliant Tutorials. The paths were well laid out. IIT or REC à MS / MBA from USà Job in USA with HI/B à Green Card. The entire value system is wrong my friend. They become engineers as its often the easiest way to get through an MS or MBA and then a green card. Engineering is never a passion for most engineers save patriotism.
We cant even expect that they are salesmen to products that eats their nation’s wealth.
There is also a flip side. I know of some engineers from Caltech who came down to Indian defense research only to be frustrated by bureaucracy and corruption in the ministry level and went back.
So I agree that they are traitors, but our systems breeds such traitors.
Its a recursive relation, my friend.
Wednesday, July 25, 2007
Engineers: Are they the real......? Part I
They have always preferred working for Lockheed Martin or Boeing rather than HAL... NASA is more prestigious than ISRO..and why not the pay is good, its a good Career, earn dollars, get the green card.. have a great life all in all.
Have they ever thought why ISRO is not at par with NASA.. how many Indian engineers and scientist have built NASA.. who could have helped ISRO reach the helm..
Today HAL engineers are struggling to make the LCA, where as Indian enginners at Lockheed martin have successfully built the F-35.. which will be sold to India by USA along with the F-16 for multi million dollars??
Some people do say so whats the big deal, every body has the right to earn a living.. we send those dollars home dont we?
well yes you are earning a living at a cost to the Country who has spent thousand on your education or subsidising it in the IITs.. the country thought they would build new India.. well they have built a better USA already.. and those u have stayed back have done their MBA ..and have entered the finance or marketing sector.. or else taken the IAS way out.
These engineers even after sending the dollars home are contributing more to the US economy more than Indian.. their staying in US contributes to the US housing sector, food and Bev sector, clothing sector, medical sector.. and consumerism sector.. so whats their contribution to their nation..
oh yes we will built those Boss speakers in USA.. you can buy it with a120%customs and royalty to USA .. or the Lockheed martin will come to India
or even the software that I use in wtiting this, may be made by an Indian in USA.. which Indians pay royalty for...
Now the most important part of the story.. Its not i dont believe in globalisation.. but its personal .. its the Battle of the E's (
engineers and ECONOMISTS)
no points for guessing which one i am.
So my question for you guys are.. Are these Engineers the greatest traitors???...over to you Avi da.. for the part II
Have they ever thought why ISRO is not at par with NASA.. how many Indian engineers and scientist have built NASA.. who could have helped ISRO reach the helm..
Today HAL engineers are struggling to make the LCA, where as Indian enginners at Lockheed martin have successfully built the F-35.. which will be sold to India by USA along with the F-16 for multi million dollars??
Some people do say so whats the big deal, every body has the right to earn a living.. we send those dollars home dont we?
well yes you are earning a living at a cost to the Country who has spent thousand on your education or subsidising it in the IITs.. the country thought they would build new India.. well they have built a better USA already.. and those u have stayed back have done their MBA ..and have entered the finance or marketing sector.. or else taken the IAS way out.
These engineers even after sending the dollars home are contributing more to the US economy more than Indian.. their staying in US contributes to the US housing sector, food and Bev sector, clothing sector, medical sector.. and consumerism sector.. so whats their contribution to their nation..
oh yes we will built those Boss speakers in USA.. you can buy it with a120%customs and royalty to USA .. or the Lockheed martin will come to India
or even the software that I use in wtiting this, may be made by an Indian in USA.. which Indians pay royalty for...
Now the most important part of the story.. Its not i dont believe in globalisation.. but its personal .. its the Battle of the E's (
engineers and ECONOMISTS)
no points for guessing which one i am.
So my question for you guys are.. Are these Engineers the greatest traitors???...over to you Avi da.. for the part II
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